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Poetry about Love Between Women from the 16th and 17th Centuries (Reprise) -  The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 39c

Poetry about Love Between Women from the 16th and 17th Centuries (Reprise) - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 39c

October 19, 2019

Poetry about Love Between Women from the 16th and 17th Centuries (Reprise)

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 39c with Heather Rose Jones

This is a reprise of LHMPodcast episode 25d which originally aired on 2018/08/26.

This episode takes a poetic tour through expressions of, and reactions to, love between women in 16th and 17th century Europe.

In this episode we talk about:

  • Poems about the pangs of love
    • “To Mrs M Awbrye” by Katherine Philips
    • “A Song” by Aphra Behn
    • “Love and Friendship: A Pastoral” by Elizabeth Singer Rowe
    • “On the Death of my Dear Friend and Play-fellow” by Jane Barker
  • Men jealous of women’s love for each other
    • “Elegy for a Lady Enamoured of Another Lady” by Pontus de Tyard
    • “On the Friendship Betwixt Two Ladies” by Edmund Waller
    • “Two Beauties, Tender Lovers” by Denis Sanguin de Saint-Pavin
  • Men appropriating lesbian imagery
    • “Sappho to Philaenis” by John Donne
    • “To Mr. J.D. (T.W.)” by Thomas Woodward
  • Poems of satire and vituperation
    • “Epigram on Cecilia Bulstrode” by Ben Johnson
    • “Tribades or Lesbia” by François de Maynard
    • “Women’s Complaint to Venus” and “Venus’s Reply” by anonymous
  • The triumph of love
    • Maitland Quarto MS Poem 49
    • ”My Divine Lysi” by Sister Juana Inés de la Cruz
    • “On a Lady Named Beloved” by Anne de Rohan-Chabot
  • A transcript of this podcast is available here and contains links to the source material.

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Medieval Love Poetry - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 39b

Medieval Love Poetry - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 39b

October 12, 2019

Medieval Love Poetry

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 39b with Heather Rose Jones

This is a reprise of LHMPodcast episode 8 which originally aired on 2017/03/25.

This episode looks at examples of courtly love--both in poetry and in prose-- expressed between two women, or by two female characters.

  • The context and conventions of the “courtly love” genre
  • The problems of relating the sentiments expressed in courtly love literature to everyday lives and experiences
  • Scholarly blind spots when interpreting same-sex expressions of courtly love
  • Love, desire, and friendship between women in the 13th century French story L’Escoufle
  • The 13th century troubariz (female troubador) Bieiris de Romans and the love poem she wrote to a woman named Maria
  • A passionate poem of love and longing written by one anonymous 12th century German woman to another

Sources

  • The full text of Na Maria by Bieris de Romans can be found in: Bogin, Meg. 1976. The Women Troubadours. Paddington Press, Ltd., New York. ISBN 0- 8467-0113-8
  • The full text of the Tegernsee MS poem can be found in: Matter, E. Ann. 1989. “My Sister, My Spouse: Woman-Identified Women in Medieval Christianity” in Weaving the Visions: New Patterns in Feminist Spirituality, eds. Judith Plaskow & Carol P. Christ. Harper & Row, San Francisco.
  • This topic is discussed in one or more entries of the Lesbian Historic Motif Project here:
  • A transcript of this podcast is available here.

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On the Shelf for October 2019 - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 39a

On the Shelf for October 2019 - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 39a

October 5, 2019

On the Shelf for October 2019

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 39a with Heather Rose Jones

Your monthly update on what the Lesbian Historic Motif Project has been doing.

In this episode we talk about:

  • My recording vacation this month and why you’re getting three reprises of poetry shows
  • Recent and upcoming publications covered on the blog
    • Amtower, Laurel and Dorothea Kehler, eds. 2003. The Single Woman in Medieval and Early Modern England: Her Life and Representation. Arizona Center for Medieval and Renaissance Studies, Tempe. ISBN 0-06698-306-6
    • Laqueur, Thomas. 1990. Making Sex: Body and Gender from the Greeks to Freud. Harvard University Press, Cambridge. ISBN 0-674-54349-1
    • Rich, Adrienne. 1980. “Compulsory Heterosexuality and Lesbian Existence,” Signs vol 5, no. 4, pp. 631-60 at 650.
  • New and forthcoming fiction
  • Call for submissions for the 2020 LHMP audio short story series. See here for details.
  • A transcript of this podcast is available here.

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How to Be a Feminist in History - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 38d

How to Be a Feminist in History - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 38d

September 28, 2019

How to Be a Feminist in History

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 38d with Heather Rose Jones

So you want your historic character to be a feminist. What does that mean? How early can we find women expressing opinions about gender equality and what did they think it looked like? What would your historic feminist’s blind spots be? What arguments and evidence would she bring to the table?

In this episode we talk about:

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Book Appreciation with Olivia Waite - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode  38c

Book Appreciation with Olivia Waite - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 38c

September 21, 2019

Book Appreciation with Olivia Waite

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 38c with Heather Rose Jones

In the Book Appreciation segments, our featured author will talk about one or more favorite books with queer female characters in a historic setting.

In this episode we talk about:

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Interview with Olivia Waite - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 38b

Interview with Olivia Waite - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 38b

September 14, 2019

Interview with Olivia Waite

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 38b with Heather Rose Jones

A series of interviews with authors of historically-based fiction featuring queer women.

In this episode we talk about:

  • What attracted her to writing historical stories
  • How the Ladies’ Guide started as a straight romance and the contrast in social dynamics
  • Exerience versus imagination in writing romance
  • Bi representation in romance
  • Figuring out how your characters understand their sexuality
  • What it’s like to publish f/f romance with a mainstream publisher
  • The experience of being a bisexual woman reading lesfic
  • Classical erotic literature and the range of sexual experiences
  • Trying to get into the heads (or other organs) of people in history
  • The next two books in the “Feminine Pursuits” series
  • Books mentioned
  • A transcript of this podcast is pending.

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On the Shelf for September 2019 - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 38a

On the Shelf for September 2019 - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 38a

September 7, 2019

On the Shelf for September 2019

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 38a with Heather Rose Jones

Your monthly update on what the Lesbian Historic Motif Project has been doing.

In this episode we talk about:

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The Black Handkerchief by Gwen C. Katz - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast  Episode 37e

The Black Handkerchief by Gwen C. Katz - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 37e

August 31, 2019

The Black Handkerchief by Gwen C. Katz

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 37e with Heather Rose Jones

The third story in our 2019 fiction series, by Gwen C. Katz. Narrated by Lara Zielinsky.

A transcript of this podcast is available here.

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Postcards from Worldcon - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 37d

Postcards from Worldcon - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 37d

August 24, 2019

Postcards from Worldcon

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 37d with Heather Rose Jones

A collection of micro-interviews recorded live at Worldcon in Dublin, Ireland.

Recommendations and shout-outs from:

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Bosom Sex (reprise) - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 37c

Bosom Sex (reprise) - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 37c

August 17, 2019

Bosom Sex (reprise)

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 37c with Heather Rose Jones

The lives and loves of two African-American women in the post Civil War era, as discovered in their correspondence.

In this episode we talk about:

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Interview with Penny Mickelbury - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 37b

Interview with Penny Mickelbury - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 37b

August 10, 2019

Interview with Penny Mickelbury

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 37b with Heather Rose Jones

A series of interviews with authors of historically-based fiction featuring queer women.

In this episode we talk about:

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On the Shelf for August 2019 - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 37a

On the Shelf for August 2019 - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 37a

August 3, 2019

On the Shelf for August 2019

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 27a with Heather Rose Jones

Your monthly update on what the Lesbian Historic Motif Project has been doing.

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Swinging Singles and Lesbian Opportunities - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast  Episode 36d

Swinging Singles and Lesbian Opportunities - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 36d

July 27, 2019

Swinging Singles and Lesbian Opportunities

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 36d with Heather Rose Jones

A consideration of how the study of single women's lives is relevant to the writing of lesbian historical fiction.

In this episode we talk about:

  • Some of the myths about women's lives in the past
  • How geography, class, and circumstance affected women's likelihood of remaining single
  • Some specific strategies for keeping your fictional characters single without the need for special pleading
  • Useful books on singlewomen studies
    • Bennett, Judith M. & Amy M. Froide eds. 1999. Singlewomen in the European Past 1250-1800. University of Pennsylvania Press, Philadelphia. ISBN 0-8122-1668- 7
    • Beattie, Cordelia. 2007. Medieval Single Women: The Politics of Social Classification in Late Medieval England. Oxford University Press, Oxford. ISBN 978-0-19-928341-5
    • Froide, Amy. 2005. Never Married: Singlewomen in Early Modern England. Oxford: Oxford University Press.
    • Amtower, Laurel and Dorothea Kehler (eds). 2003. The Single Woman in Medieval and Early Modern England: Her Life and Representation. Arizona Center for Medieval and Renaissance Studies, Tempe. ISBN 0-06698-306-6
    • Staples, Kate Kelsey. 2011. Daughters of London: Inheriting Opportunity in the Late Middle Ages. Brill, Leiden. ISBN 978- 9004203112
  • This topic is discussed in one or more entries of the Lesbian Historic Motif Project here: Singlewomen
  • A transcript of this podcast is available here.

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Book Appreciation with KJ Charles - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode  36c

Book Appreciation with KJ Charles - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 36c

July 20, 2019

Book Appreciation with KJ Charles

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 36c with Heather Rose Jones

In the Book Appreciation segments, our featured authors (or your host) will talk about one or more favorite books with queer female characters in a historic setting.

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Ann Bannon Talks About Beebo Brinker and the Lesbian Pulps of the 1950s and 60s 

Ann Bannon Talks About Beebo Brinker and the Lesbian Pulps of the 1950s and 60s 

July 19, 2019

Ann Bannon Talks About Beebo Brinker and the Lesbian Pulps of the 1950s and 60s 

Les Do Books with Tara and guest Ann Bannon

In this episode, Tara’s joined by Ann Bannon, author of the legendary lesbian pulp Beebo Brinker series. Ann talks about how she first discovered lesbian books, how she got her start writing pulps in the 1950s and 60s, why they resonated and sold so strongly, and the enduring, lifesaving legacy they’ve had.

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You can see all of our reviews, top 10 lists and author profiles on TheLesbianReview.com and don’t forget to send your emails, questions and more to Tara@TheLesbianReview.com.

Interview with KJ Charles - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 36b

Interview with KJ Charles - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 36b

July 13, 2019

Interview with KJ Charles

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 36b with Heather Rose Jones

A series of interviews with authors of historically-based fiction featuring queer women.

In this episode we talk about:

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Links to Heather Online

Links to KJ Charles Online

If you enjoy this podcast and others at The Lesbian Talk Show, please consider supporting the show through Patreon:

On the Shelf for July 2019 - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 36a

On the Shelf for July 2019 - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 36a

July 6, 2019

On the Shelf for July 2019

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 36a with Heather Rose Jones

Your monthly update on what the Lesbian Historic Motif Project has been doing.

In this episode we talk about:

Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online

Links to Heather Online

If you enjoy this podcast and others at The Lesbian Talk Show, please consider supporting the show through Patreon:

By Her Pen She Conquers by Catherine Lundoff - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 35e

By Her Pen She Conquers by Catherine Lundoff - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 35e

June 29, 2019

By Her Pen She Conquers by Catherine Lundoff

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 35e with Heather Rose Jones

The second story in our 2019 fiction series: "By Her Pen She Conquers" by previous LHMP author Catherine Lundoff.

Catherine is an award-winning writer, editor, and publisher from Minneapolis. She is the author of the queer werewolf novel Silver Moon and the collection Out of This World: Queer Speculative Fiction Stories and is the editor of the fantastical pirate anthology Scourge of the Seas of Time (and Space), as well as having a number of published short stories in many genres. She is also the publisher of Queen of Swords Press, a genre fiction publisher specializing in fiction from out of this world.

Update Note: I unintentionally truncated the title to "By Her Pen" in the original post and recording. I apologize deeply to Catherine Lundoff for this mistake and have corrected it in all the places I have access to, but the audio version retains the shorter title.

A transcript of this podcast is available here.

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Emily Dickinson Goes to the Movies - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode  35d

Emily Dickinson Goes to the Movies - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 35d

June 22, 2019

Emily Dickinson Goes to the Movies

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 35d with Heather Rose Jones

Was famous American poet Emily Dickinson a lesbian? The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast looks at her life through the lens of the movie camera, and especially the current film Wild Nights with Emily.

In this episode we talk about:

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Book Appreciation with Anna Clutterbuck-Cook (part 2) - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 35c

Book Appreciation with Anna Clutterbuck-Cook (part 2) - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 35c

June 15, 2019

Book Appreciation with Anna Clutterbuck-Cook (part 2)

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 35c with Heather Rose Jones

In the Book Appreciation segments, our featured authors (or your host) will talk about one or more favorite books with queer female characters in a historic setting. This time we had so much to talk about we split it into two episodes.

In this episode we talk about:

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